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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 10:01 pm    Post subject: The case Fiato flipped... Reply with quote

Craig Anthony Fiato

The Fiato brothers acted as FBI informants for the better part of two years secretly recording conversations and meetings with a number of associates and mid-level members. The Fiato's ran with a crew which dealt in porn, dabbled in narcotics and acted as muscle for the Milano's and to a lesser extent Mike Rizzitello. Fiato's account of his career is greatly exagerated as he paints himself as the underboss in Rizzitello's Orange County based operation. The highly suspicious Rizzitello was offered up to the feds by the Fiato's as prosecutors desperately sought a way to lock up the most dangerous leader in the LA family.

In cases involving not only Rizzitello but Milano family members Nick Nardi, Rusty Masetta, Bobby D'Agostino, Steve Munchiello the Gelfusos and Albie Nunez the Fiato's readily co-operated with federal authorities. The evidence they supplied led to a disputed case in which D'Agostino was convicted on charges of selling cocaine to an undercover officer. The Fiato's provided cocaine and then testified against their crime cohort. Why would Fiato testify against D'Agostino? A case of self-preservation maybe?

D'Agostino and the Fiato's ran into issues and D'Agostino tried to arrange a beating of the gangster brothers not knowing they were under the protection of the government. Rizzitello in contrast sought a more permanent solution. Not one to balk at putting down a rabid animal, Rizzitello's cooling on the Fiato's was sure to seal their fate but they already had a plan in motion. At the same time D'Agostino had his own issues with Bobby Paduano.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jiggy, Thats an interesting post, I hope you continue it. Obviously this is stuff they didnt mention in the book!
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 8:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mike Rizzi never had an OC based crew. Mike lived in the Valley. Mike was still a LA FAMILY guy until he died. Mike had guys in The OC who shylocked like Fat Bobby.
Mike knew Anthony Fiato since Fiato was a kid. Anthony was trusted by Mike because Anthony did work WITH Mike. Mike was very gunshy and did not want his bail revolked. The FBI did not want Mike because they already had him on the FOREX case. He was going away and he was on the shelf. They wanted the Milano's because they were the bosses.
Sorry Dino was never a tough guy... Bobby P and others could tell you.
He was a fat nobody.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 4:17 pm    Post subject: Rizzitello Orange County crew Reply with quote

I beg to differ on this point with you as does Fiato's book. Where Fiato and I differ is on the source of sanctioning. Fiato says Neil Dellacroce sanctioned it but it was formed while Dellacroce was in prison in New York. A more likely scenario involves Joe Bonanno and his expansion westward. Again there is overwhelming evidence and documents showing connections between Bonanno, Fratianno, Bompensiro and John Roselli. The same cannot be said for Dellacroce outside of hearsay and speculation.

As for Bobby Paduano and Dino, you state on the Hollywood Mafia blog that Bobby is "the man in Orange county," and "Dino was abit of a gunslinger back in the day." Can you clarify what you mean? Also what job Fiato did with or for Rizzitello?

As for the Rizzitello cases, he was most certainly the target not Milano. None of the cases involving Rizzitello involved Pete directly though one did cross over and grab a couple of his people. I detailed all the case against Rizzi in another post. It is under the Orange County section.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 6:41 pm    Post subject: Fiato Reply with quote

The Neil saction is a fact, it was also on tape. many converstaion about it. Joe bonnano was on the shelf. His sons tried to be active. They had there own thing going, but were not in with the rest of Cosa Nostra.
Fiato and Frattiano saw each other later after they flipped and they spoke about everything.
you look to deep into what has been written. A writer who does not get it right says something that does not come across right and you take it as fact. Did you know Mike Rizzi? Did you every meet his kids? Mike had the connections with the Gambino's. he did work for them in LA. When Frattiano flipped Joe Piney went to bat for Mike and saved his life. (that is not in any book) Fat Bobby Paduano worked with A Bonnano son for a while, but they had no family. I am still close to a guy who is with Bobby. The Dino I speak about is not that fat loser, it was Dino S and he was a heavy guy. he was a shooter. look up Bobby's cases in the 80's you will see his name. I do not know it all, nor do I claim to. I am just trying to get out the real information. I know what I saw being with these guys and other LCN guys. I do not take what Fiato or frattiano or anyone says as gold. I check it out or find other things to back it up. Rizzi was not really hangimng around Milano that is why he was not on the cases. I am giving you my take as a guy who was on the inside and knows how a criminal or wiseguy really acts or thinks.
Anthony did a lot of work that is not in the book. people know. He helped Rizzi. Rizzi did more than is known and he never did it alone. Trust me. You will see as you get to know me, that I will only tell you what I know. Pete did not have the Dubecks killed. You never heard who the shooter were... Frattianio did not say.
Flipper did not say when he turned. he did not know.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 3:16 am    Post subject: Reply Reply with quote

I never stated Fratianno was the source that linked Gelfuso to the Dubeck murder. That is something I picked up out of some files... As for Bonanno being on the shelf, this is again not accurate Kenji. Bonanno was far from on the shelf as he operated throughout the west using his nephew Vito DeFillippi as his personal emissary. Vito was seen and recorded meeting with everyone "on the westcoast," and went to jail for trying to fix a case up north. It was through Vito that the message was sent from the commission asking for permission to hit Lilo. This would that have been necessary if Bonanno was on the shelf?

I am aware of who Dino is. Sogliuzzo "excuse the spelling." I know a great deal about Pete and his fronts, I know about Rochelle and awhole lot more.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bonnano was on the shelf. He was still working on his own. He had his own family and crew. He was working without standing, which anyone can do.
He is just like the Colombo kids who went to upstate NY. They had a bunch of Family and Made guys even a skipper or two. They were on the shelf. It was made clear that whatever they did it was LCN biz. Jerry Greens eye's went with them and he was broken and put on the shelf.
I can tell you this Louie Gelfuso did not do the Dubecks. Pete did not even order it.
I know two of the three guys who did it. One is dead. The other is still alive and when he goes, I will be able to show who was there.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm almost positive that 86-year-old Nick Nardi is a member of the Cleveland Family and not a member of the Los Angeles Milano Family.

He is under the command of Joe Iacobacci, the alleged boss of the Cleveland mob these days.

Supposedly, Nick Nardi (who's pretty old) is inactive as a member of the Cleveland mob.

So, Jiggy, are you sure Nardi is a made member of the Milano Family?

Rusty Massetta lives in Cleveland and is a remote member of the Milano Family, but I've never heard of Nick Nardi being one.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 3:23 pm    Post subject: Nick Nardi Reply with quote

Prior to moving back to Ohio Nardi and Massetta were active in the labor unions for Milano. Both are listed as soldiers in the Milano family. I don't know anything about Nardi being with Joe Loose and the Cleveland family, that is not to say it is not so but I have seen nothing which validates or even suggest a connection other than Nardi living in Ohio. I would say at the age that Nardi is why would he switch and go to Cleveland to retire?

What I can tell you with certainty about Nardi and the Milanos is Nardi was the business agent for Teamsters Local 630 in Los Angeles which was one of several locals used in a series of questionable transactions which included but were not limited to extortion and fraud. Nardi was involved in an indictment while still living in Chatsworth with Mike Rizzitello and Bobby Paduano. This case had nothing to do with the Unions but stolen stock from General Enertech Corp., a San Diego company which sold submersible pumps "like those used to pump out New Orleans after the hurricane."

If you look at Nardi he was always involved in labor racketeering just as Pete was. In the 60s Tony Milano got him started by getting Jackie Presser to issue him a charter for Local 416. Nardi was secretary treasurer and Nick Francis served as President after the initial President Pat Catalano disappeared. At the time of Catalano's vanishing, both Nardi and Francis were listed as members of the Licata family in Los Angeles though both lived in Ohio and operated locals issued through Tony Milano's contacts. All threee "Nardi, Francis and Pete Milano," worked to secure the signatures which led to the formation of Teamsters Local 711 of the International Office and Professional Employees Union. This union immediately began trying to organize the dealers in Las Vegas. The scheme was exposed before it became a success but Nardi, Francis and Milano continued to operate in union circles. Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm going by this Laborers Union report presented to the White House in 1978 and other official reports.

Here's an excerpt:

Local 416 - IBT Cleveland. This local has long been a haven for members of the Cleveland LCN. A former official Pat Catalano was murdered in 1965 as the result of a gang war. Nick Nardi, the current Secretary Treasurer is a brother of the late John Nardi who was killed in May 1977 in a LCN power struggle. Nick Nardi, as was his brother, is a member of the Cleveland LCN.

I know John Nardi was never made, but I know Nick is and I figured with that official report and others that it would make him a member of the Cleveland Mafia.

I'm not saying I'm right, either.

Here's the link: www.laborers.org/VAIRA_MEMO.html
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 4:22 am    Post subject: Nick Nardi Reply with quote

In viewing the document all I can tell you is Nardi was identified as a member of the Licata family in 1970 and as a member of the Milano family in the mid 80s during the case he Rizzitello and Paduano were involved in. I don't know who compiled the information in the 1978 report but we know for certain that John Nardi wasn't a made member of the Cleveland family but he had the backing of his uncle Tony Milano who was "albeit retired." What was uncle Tony up to in backing Nardi and Green? Again you also had Leo Morceri identified as a member of the Licata family in the late 60s by the federal government and that has been shown not have been the case. It all depends on your perspective and which documents or case information you choose to credit or discredit. Having said that I would rely on association as the next step in unravelling the mystery and being that his known associates in Cleveland were outside of the Cleveland family and he moved to Los Angeles "Chatsworth," immediately following the murder of his brother," it is unlikely that he was ever a member of the Cleveland family otherwise there would have been no reason for him to run west. Also I have never seen one member of the Cleveland family named as an associate of Nardi. I'm not a follower of the Cleveland family so you should direct that question to Kenny P on the Cleveland forum, I am sure someone there could provide that information if indeed there is a connection Wink .
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