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FINCEN
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 6:30 pm    Post subject: Fiato never made... Reply with quote

After nearly a decade spent ripping and running the streets of Los Angeles angling for a chance to become a made member of the Milano or Rizzitello crime families, Craig Anthony Fiato began wearing a wire for the FBI. It was early 1984 and Fiato's time and patience were running out. Despite his claims of exhaulted status within the Los Angeles underworld, the closest Fiato would come to official sanctioning would be doing the bidding of trusted Milano capo Louie Gelfuso.

Gelfuso tried molding Fiato into the type of man boss Pete Milano could use but a penchant for self-promotion and over-indulgence limited his potential. Relegated to associate status, Fiato admittedly fummed when he learned John DeMattia, a man Fiato claims to have schooled, was made and then demanded $35,000 from his loan-sharking operation.

"It's very hard, you know, for me to have the role reversed and me to have to answer to him in this situation." Craig Fiato.

"I had to eat it and stuff it down."


The experience was humiliating obviously but Fiato had already begun wearing a wire when the incident occured so why did Fiato flip? Mad
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anthony was MADE.. I know. I have the tape. I also have sat at the table with Louie Gelfuso and HE TOLD ME. I also have Jimmy Caci speaking about it.
I can also tell you John "Jtters" Dimatia ws never made! He was and is a real punk. John also worked as a CI for LAPD. Shakes Milano wanted him dead. John was with Mike Rizzi and was going to get made. Then Tumac came out and that was it. They gave John a couple of days to think it over and he blew it.
I saw John at Porno Mike's in the Valley 2 years ago. He did not even look at me because he knew I was going to beat him down. He told Mike and I he had found god. I just laughed and walked away.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 8:51 pm    Post subject: Fiato Reply with quote

Why would Fiato have kicked back $35,000 to a man who wasn't made?

Can you explain what Fiato's comments are all about in the context of having to "eat it and stuff it down"?

You have tapes of the ceremony? Or someone discussing Fiato as a made man? When were these tapes made? Confused
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 9:28 pm    Post subject: Made Reply with quote

I have the tape of the meeting about the Puggy money. John was asked to leave the table. No way. Fiato never kicked 35,000 to John. John was not able to work with Fiato or Puggy after he was out of Jail in NJ. He stole cash. Puggy loaned him 10,000 of his own cash. John tried to get Puggy away from Fiato. He even called Marty and Tumac. JOHN IS NO WAY MADE. He is afraid of Anthony. I know John. I was going to hurt him. I would not have even thought of it if he was. not because I was afraid, but because I went by the rules. Jimmy told me he was made many times. Louie G told me. Bobby Milano told. I heard Louie discussing the rules with him and then checking out his father. That was on tape. I know Shakes just said he was in! that was how he was made. The same as Flipper. to much heat for anything else. I also knew other made guys who were introduced to him as a made guy. Plus you have to know this. regardless of what is written and you may have or the writer might gotten it wrong.
Fiato or Me or any real hood would never just give up cash to another guy. Who cares if he was made. If you are right, you are right. You keep your cash and bust the other guys head. Fiato was a worker. A hard guy who could use his hands and shoot. I know this..
John is a pussy. Fact.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 9:47 pm    Post subject: Identity clarification Reply with quote

Just for the sake of clarification for the crimefile Marty Tacetta and Tumac were New Jersey Lucchese guys, Puggy is Puggy Zeicheck, Jimmy is Vincent Dominic Caci and Louie G is deceased Milano capo Lugi Gelfuso. O.K. stay with us Kenji, I want to move into some other guys from back east who were out in Los Angeles with around Rizzi or the Milanos. Before I go any further is there anybody you want to leave out of the discussion before we go forward? If so send me an email and I will leave the names off the board.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 6:20 pm    Post subject: Fiato Reply with quote

I am here. All the guys you posted were the guys I was speaking about. I will talk about anything. There are somethings I cannot at this time. I will tell you why if you touch on those subjects.
I only post about things I know first hand. I was there o the street. Anthony and his brother are good friends of mine. I knew all the other guys on the board..
So ask away. The tape on my site of Jimmy speaking about Fiato is about the meeting at the hotel when Fiato was asked for the cash, It never happened.
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