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PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 11:02 pm    Post subject: Moody fronts? Reply with quote

The Moody's were without question fronting for foreign interests. They made their money in the pre-civil war era in the cotton business. Galveston was a major point of exportation of cotton during this period and the Moody connection to the Kempner family provided them with access to European buyers and capital sources. When those European buyers embargoed American cotton in a dispute over finances with the U.S., government, this proved a major point of conflict between the North and the South. Those European financiers then turned to India to replace the cotton that they'd previously imported from the south via David Sasson. Sasson enjoyed a monopoly over the world opium market and was all to happy to sell his cotton to the Lancashire millers at record prices. Col. William Moody didn't miss a beat after the close of the civil war as those European financiers gained a greater control over American financial affairs than at anytime since the colony's declared their independence.

As for who composes the hidden financial group, I'd say the best answer lies in the fact that power never concedes a thing. Therefore those who succeeded the Sasson's, Rothschild's and Doge Leonardo Loredano in Italy as well as those who inspired the actions of Francisco Datini, the Bicker family "to whom we owe the term Bickering." Jacob Fugger, the great Medici, Jacques Coeur and the alternate personalities of Croseus and Gaius Maecenas. These are the ones with whom we owe the examples that plague or act as benevolent forces in the world today. Mr. Grosvenor much like Lundin is a potential victim of his controllers.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 7:54 pm    Post subject: From Beemoe Reply with quote

So you think Grosvenor is part of the ' object group" the ones who are controlled. I would think that old as the Grosvenor Family is that they would be a part of the subject group. How about The Windsors? Do you see The Oppenheimers as being fronts as well?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 9:29 pm    Post subject: From Beemoe Reply with quote

The Fuggers, Medicis, Jack Coeur, Sassons were all people that I`ve studied in the past but obviously need to take another look. Doge Loredano is new on my radar screen.

How do you see a financial criminal like Ivar Kreuger? This guy had to had some help to pull off a scam of that magnitude off. Maybe he was fronting for The Wallenbergs?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 2:16 pm    Post subject: Kruger Reply with quote

Kruger most certainly had help and it most likely came from the same realm that created the myths that surrounded Soviet Russian business activities and those who benefitted from the veil of secrecy those myths provided. I say this much in the manner that the veil the still surrounds the financial activities of the Warburgs in regard to the rise and promotion of Nazisim in Germany masks those who held a financial stake in the activities there during the war. Who do you think was responsible for Raoul Wallenberg's disappearance and why? Who stood to gain is very much an important part of discovering the who, when, why and wheres.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 9:48 pm    Post subject: From Beemoe Reply with quote

I was aware that the Warburgs had provided the Soviets gold in order to rid the German army of the Eastern Front. So the "sealed train" story is true? The implications that The Warburgs are responsible for Wallenberg`s disapparence are something I`m not familar with. I would think that Kreuger would have sided with Wallenbergs. But The Warburgs pockets were obviously deeper. Have you seen Frank Partnoy`s book on Kreuger?

Thyssen-Krupp ....subject or objects? Both families big players in the industrialization of Germany and very dear to it`s war machine. A la The Mitsuis in Japan.

I haven`t forgotten I.G.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 5:33 pm    Post subject: Warburg machinations... Reply with quote

Indeed the Warburg's were the key financial movers in terms of financing the Russian revolution through the Bolsheviks. Specifically they employed the services of Jacob Schiff of Kuhn, Loeb & Co., as a conduit to Leon Trotsky. If you will recall Trotsky turned up on New York after his expulsion from France. During this time his expenses were paid a mysterious figure he identifies in his memoir My Life as Dr. M. There is little doubt that the mysterious Dr M., was none other than Jacob Schiff. It would seem a curious choice of company for Trotsky 'an avowed enemy of capitalism and a champion of the working class,' but in My Life, Trotsky reveals another side of himself that enjoyed luxurious living. He relished the memory of the chauffeured limousine placed at his disposal and meetings in the family mansions tea-room. One would expect such descriptions from Dr. M or Schiff if you will but certainly not from Trotsky. However Schiff had "given as much as $20 million for the triumph of Communism." There is a well published report of a Schiff authored telegram being read at a mass "anarchist meeting" held in celebration of the abdication of Nicholas II in March 1917 that expressed his pleasure having witnessed "what we had hoped and striven for these long years." Further evidence of Trotsky's reliance upon the Warburg network emerged when he was detained in Canada on his way to Petrograd in May 1917. Canadian and British authorities noted the $10,000 in cash the Trotsky was carrying for "travel expenses." It is also well documented that Edward Mandell House a native Texan and noted advisor to President Woodrow Wilson, arranged to have Trotsky released through his friend and neighbor William Wiseman head of the British Secret Service in the United States. As a direct result of House's intercession, Trotsky was released on the order of the British Admiralty to complete his mission which was to "overthrow the provisional government and stop the war with Germany."

    THE IMPORTANCE OF HOUSE AND HIS CONNECTIONS


It is important to note that E. M. House was known as Col. House and he was the 7th son of Thomas W. House a prominent figure in the development of the city of Houston. T. W., was an English immigrant who settled in Houston in 1838 where he became a successful dry goods dealer, cotton merchant and investment banker. The elder House predated another important capital minded Houstonian in William Marsh Rice with whom he transacted a fair amount of business. A more complete study of Rice's activities can be found in the Houston portion of the blog, but for the sake of this discussion it is worth noting that Rice and House partnered in a venture which saw them run the Union blockade "both ways" during the Civil War. While Marsh announced his allegiance to the Union, he readily allowed his mansion to be turned into a hospital facility that took in Confederate soldiers. At the same time ships owned by the elder House sailed out of Galveston loaded with bales of cotton destined for the West Indies and Central America. On the return voyage, the ships were loaded with munitions, cloting and medicine a portion of which House would sell to the Confederates whereas Rice's portion was sold to Union forces. Col. E. M. House was the younger brother of T. W. House Jr., who took over the banking concern founded by his father. T. W. House Jr., is noted for the failure of the banking operation in 1907 as a result of that year's great panic. All of the circumstances surrounding the collapse of T. W. House Bank is complicated and to save time going over all the particulars other than to say the issues associated with House Bank were related to the failure of Haller, Soehle Co. in Hamburg and the Otto Heinze & Co., debacle brought on by the machinations of Charles W. Morse. I'll simply point out that the general assignment order filed by T. W. House Jr., in October 1907 named William Bartlett Chew, William D. Cleveland and Jonas Shearn Rice as his assignees. Each represented prominent Houston banking concerns and demonstrated the strength of Houston's banking sector by posting bond in the sum of $100,000 before Judge Norman G. Kittrell.

    WARBURG GERMAN INTERESTS


So now you kind of have an ideal of the connections that the Warburg's had in both Russia and Germany where a branch of the family headquartered M. M. Warburg, Hamburg. M. M. Warburg Hamburg, Bankhaus Mendelssohn & Co., Berlin and Simon Hirschland, Essen, were factors in the German economy as late as September 1938. The Reich Economics Ministry argued for the transfer of Jewish owned shares of Bankhaus Mendelssohn & Co., Berlin to the (REM) in exchange for the REM's shares of Mendelssohn & Co., Amsterdam. The REM announced the retention of the bank under "aryan control" would allow them to secure the continuing employment of the bank's non-Jewish personnel without disclosing the fact that the deal allowed the bank's primary partners who were Rudolf Lob, Paul Kempner and Fritz Mannheimer, to escape the annually negotiated German Credit Agreements. An explanation of which as detailed by Erich Klug is listed below.


    In connection with these credits...liability also lies with the proprietors personally, in fact, through their private assets, and, under the provisions of the Standstill Agreement, the part amounts concerned when a proprietor withdraws would fall due immediately, payable in foreign currency. [...] As long as the standstill credits remain in place the foreign standstill creditors have right of relief over foreign-currency assets, i.e. when the proprietor withdraws immediate payment can be demanded in foreign currency, as a result of which it follows that Jewish assets located abroad would be jeopardized...Only the authorities could compel the Jews at least to proceed simultaneously to take all the steps required to transfer the operation to an aryan ownership, and previous experience suggest that there is no doubt that such a request, if made by a government agency (Reich Economics Ministry, Reichbank, or Bank Commissar,) would in fact be complied with.


Ultimately the REM decided that the shares of Mendelssohn should be taken over by Deutsche Bank business along with a $2 million credit line. The bank's American creditors reportedly favored this action. In reality Mendelssohn retained its capital, foreign assets and German real estate and the non-Jewish employees began to receive their pay from Deustche Bank at a higher rate. Deustche Bank paid nothing for the business and assumed the employees pension responsibilities as agreed upon by Mendelssohn. The two of the three principles in Mendelssohn's Berlin operation ended up in the United States while Mannheimer committed suicide in 1939. So as you can see had the decision of whom to side with "War or Wallen" been up to Kreuger, the choice would have been a no brainer. In fact Kreuger lobbied the Warburg's for financial support but was rebuffed. It was Felix Warburg who met with Kruger after the latter presented a letter of introduction from his brother Max in the offices of Kuhn, Loeb & Co., shortly before his empires collapse.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 9:07 pm    Post subject: from Beemoe Reply with quote

I remember reading about Colonel House years ago, like 1989. It seems like Deutsche Bank is another part of the puzzle. They figure in "Jekyll`s Island" they`re also a favorite of Robert Kiyosaki who is running on a similar track as you.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 9:12 pm    Post subject: From Bee Reply with quote

I find it interesting that the German Jews bankers sided with the South considering what they had been through. It`s even more interesting how fast they infiltrated Texas. Do you see a similar thang going on with the zaibatsu?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 11:05 pm    Post subject: Zaibatsu Reply with quote

Exactly the same...
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 9:18 pm    Post subject: From Beemoe Reply with quote

Yeah fellas: I see The Mitsuis, The Tsutsumis, The Nomuras and The Mitsubishis operating pretty much the same way and function that The Rothschilds have in Europe and North America. It seems like the above front for The Yamatos.

It seems like somebody like Sassakawa knew how to curry favor with all of the above. It`s hard to believe that Hirohito gave this playa his own private army to rape and pillage Manchuria at will.

I wonder if somebody like this operated in Imperial Russia on these terms? Maybe the Yussopovs? Imagine that much raw material all under one jurisdiction?

So Jiggy who else do you see on "Team Rothschild" Mellons? etc.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 10:19 pm    Post subject: from Beemoe Reply with quote

Getting back to I.G.......The various components parts lke BASF, Bayer, Hoechst etc. are actually bigger than the original I.G. (what brillant financial architecture!) do you see this group a part of "Team Rothschild' or separate? The bankers and owners of this group with their resources and craftiness could finance anything and anybody.

I`ve always admired the imagination of this group. They were resourceful like George Washington Carver or A. G. Gaston in the sense regardless what The Allies did to stop them it really didn`t work, they found ways around it.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 8:27 pm    Post subject: I.G.F Reply with quote

IGF was without question set up by the Rothschild/Warburg financial syndicate. This what enabled many of the IBF plants and facilities to emerge unscathed when allied bombs pelted Germany toward the end of the war. There were well placed members especially from the Warburg's on the American side that would have provided them ample opportunity to identify, mark and secure whatever assets they deemed crucial to protect. They were well suited and motivated because it meant profit as well as a move toward the desired goal of establishing their own personal colony in Palestine. 'Oops yes we have to go down that road,' Well now that we've jumped off that bridge, Jimmy Warburg endeared himself early on to President Roosevelt and advised him as he instituted his New Deal program. Jimmy Warburg was also considered the 'godfather' of Polaroid Company as well as having been a long term Union Pacific Board member. It was a cancer operation that led Jimmy Warburg to settle in Florida where interesting enough, a number of other influential and money minded and criminally inclined figures such as oh I don't know Myer Lansky, Doc Stacher and Alvin Malnik setup shop. You may recall that Lansky and Stacher were staunch supporters of Israel and both settled "or at least in Lansky's case," or attempted to settle in Israel.

I sure if you know it or not but Roosevelt's son James was living in a house on Felix Warburg's White Plains estate when his father was elected President of the United States? A close friend of James Roosevelt who spent a considerable amount of time at the estate was Professor James Moley who became one of Roosevelt's brain trust. Yet another extremely influential member of the Roosevelt staff was Texan Col. E.M. House of whom we've discussed early. House had managed to survive for decades as a White house confidant having first served as the unofficial President during Woodrow Wilson's years. In all fairness I should say House made the financial and international affairs decisions for Wilson. It should be noted that another Texan and close friend of House's Jesse Holman Jones emerged as the most influential member of the New Deal era program as a financial czar and controller of the Reconstruction Finance Committee. As the war drew to a close John J. McCloy sought out Jimmy Warburg for direction on what to do in regard to the allied occupation of Nazi Germany. Therefore it is safe to assume McCloy's controversial stance against the allies plans to bomb the rail lines leading to Auschwitz. These lines had been financed by the Warburgs during their construction. So then it should come as no surprise to whom we can attribute McCloy's decision to pardon high ranking Nazi war criminals.

And so it was that when the allies captured Reichsminister for air, supreme commander of the German Air Force, prime minister of Prussia, president of the state council, president of the Reichstag, Reichsmaster of forestry and game as well as president of the Scientific Reseach Council... Field Marshall Hermann Goring, the first man to interrogate him was Eric Warburg. A naturalized citizen of the United States '1938' Eric was a partner in M. M. Warburg & Co. in the early 30s. 1938 proved a fateful year for Eric who fled Germany for New York before returning to Europe where the newly Americanized citizen joined the British Combat Intelligence Unit at the Air Ministry in London. He was later transferred to the Anglo-American Joint Combat Intelligence Unit where he became an interrogator. Eric was later credited with 'laying the foundations of the strategic security of the United States and Great Britain.' Old John McCloy sent a request for Eric to asking that he return to Hamburg to aide in the reconstruction of Hamburg. And so you can see Farben's financial masters were well positioned to ensure its future and security.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 7:58 pm    Post subject: From beemoe Reply with quote

I`m reading "Jekyll Island" and I finally got to Colonel House. There`s a lot of things that I forgot. These were people that I studied back about 1989. I found a copy of "The Spotlight" a conspiracy theme newspaper in San Diego back then.
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