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PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 9:11 pm    Post subject: from Beemoe Reply with quote

Hey Jiggy I have to partly disagree with you on Shorex. Yeah Shorex is aimed at people who lack the neccessary financial intelligence, with it`s visuals of big cars and boats and other luxury items. I disagree because it`s one of those places where you have a " meeting of the minds" where the conversation is about "tax planning" "tax avoidance" and ummmmm "tax evasion'..... basically three sides of the same coin (a very strange shaped coin). Based on the talk concerning this meet it seems like this is one of those places where you get a chance to see how the wealthy circumvent the system. Pretty much what we`re talking about.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 2:18 pm    Post subject: The grand illusion... Reply with quote

Well there are a number of economic theories, groups and plans that promise little more than fools gold. To be honest with you, if you haven't been pre-screened and selected for a purpose, you're not going to get in. Those who are in, they aren't in because they attended a meeting or purchased a plan. They are in despite themselves. Now there are those who have and there are those who appear to have. In which category do those who believe in Shorex fall? Take a look at Warren Buffet and or Bill Gates. Do they truly have what we have been told they do, or is it a case of smoke and mirrors?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 9:44 pm    Post subject: from beemoe Reply with quote

You`re missing the point Jiggy: The point is you get to meet the characters they we are talking about here. The lawyers, accountants, private offshore bankers and corporate formation agents who create these goodies.

To be honest with I`ve always wanted to go into the corporate formation business myself. Maybe this is my time?

Wasn`t that you that said or alluded to the CIA banking in Campione? i think we get a chance to meet those gnomes at Shorex.........ahhhhhhh.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 3:21 am    Post subject: Shorex Reply with quote

If you are getting that kind of access then it would be well worth it but I am doubtful that access could be obtained so easily. I could very well be mistaken on this point indeed.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 4:50 am    Post subject: From Beemoe Reply with quote

Bill Gates / Warren Buffett smoke and mirrors. Do you think they were "selected" and by whom? Interesting.

Do you see the entire world economy being controlled by one group or by many? If totally controlled by any group?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 1:59 pm    Post subject: Who's in control? Reply with quote

Have you ever seen one of those shows where they set up car thieves with a car whose ignition is wired with a kill switch and external door locks. The thief get's in hot wires the car and makes off with the car only to discover that someone else is in control. From a remote location someone kills the ignition and locks the door and suddenly the thief realizes he's been duped and trapped. It's the same premise with the financial system. As discussed previously Buffet, Gates, Jobs, Soros, Rich, Bronfman, Malnik, Leviev, Arabo and a host of others occupy the drivers seat. The media bills them as the guys who manipulate the system but every move they make is predicated on a specific set of guidelines or confines that they must stay within to retain their position. So then who is the guy or guys with their finger on the kill switch? That's a very good question. Can we answer that question with absolute confidence and certainly. The 100% honest answer is no. However we can move closer to the truth by simply observing the way things are done and who enjoys the greatest leverage and freedom. In that case I propose a very highly placed figure would be a name that comes as no surprise to any of us. Young Mr. Rothschild. Now I'm not going to sit here and ascribed a long list of crimes to the Rothschild's because to be honest some of what they have been accused of may be true but a great deal of it quite honestly can never be confirmed. Nonetheless Nathaniel Philip Victor James Rothschild is a very interesting figure to start with.

Not quite 40, young Rothschild is said to be the richest of the bunch. I doubt that very seriously but he is a global player nonetheless. His bio illustrates that he is a very active investor who has entered a number of firms as either Chairman or a highly placed board member who rarely stays more than a few years at a time. This does not mean that his investment or influence disappears simply that he ceases to be a visible participant in the business. One of the businesses of interest that he is linked with is Barrack Gold Corporation. Barrack is the World's largest pure gold mining company in the world. This is the same Barrack Gold Corporation that was named "along with J.P. Morgan Chase & Co," in an anti-trust lawsuit accusing them of manipulating the price of gold which allowed them to pocket $2 billion in short-sell profits. It is worth noting that the suit said by injecting "gold...additions that were several times as great as the annual production of every gold mine in South Africa...using privately negotiated derivative contracts and concealing...billions of dollars worth of physical gold with off-balance sheet accounting..." Barrack and J,P. Morgan Chase blocked "the ability of gold analysts and investors to determine the size and market impact of its trading positions."

It is the classic case of extracting profits without an investment. Over a 5 year period J.P. Morgan financed Barrack's short selling while providing exclusive terms that weren't available to anyone else. J. P. Morgan Chase loaned Barrack gold at 1.5% which was then sold into the market via J.P. Morgan Chase. The dollar profits from the gold sales were then invested or loaned out at 6.5%. Barrack received the proceeds from the gold sales in addition to the 5% interest. J.P. Morgan Chase kept the initial 1.5% interest. As a result Barrack profited greatly from this arrangement with the banking giant but those profits were piddly compared to the profit they received by shorting the price of gold. Annually Barrack stood to profit as much as 400% whenever the price of gold dropped by 25% or better.

Now the kicker in all of this is Barrack later claimed it had acted at the behest of the US Federal Reserve to suppress the price of gold and yet they never acted as an agent of or for the Federal Reserve. The central banks actually deal with the London Bullion Market Association. It is unknown if that entity played a role in the scandal "that truly isn't a scandal at all," or not. The case was later settled between Barrack and the plaintiff but the story doesn't end there. In September 2009 Barrack announced plans to eliminate all of its gold hedges. To pay for the move they planned a share offering to raise the estimated $3 billion they would need to do so. Therefore the market got exactly what it sought which was a removal for the cap on the price of gold. So the good guys "market investors" had triumphed over the evil price manipulators. Or so it would appear. However Goldline International using the foreign owned and controlled Fox News Corporation as an advertising vehicle whipped the American public into a nervous frenzy with its dire warnings about the inevitable collapse of the American dollar. This helped the price of gold reach all-time highs which again profited Barrack as they are the world's largest pure gold mining company. Pure genius is it not?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 9:33 pm    Post subject: From Beemoe Reply with quote

I`ve been meaning to ask you a similar question recently concerning "criminal financiers" These are the people who hold most of the cards. I gathered you were refering to one of the Rothschilds as holding the majority of them. Along with the Moody`s.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 9:44 pm    Post subject: From Beemoe Reply with quote

I`ve noticed that I keep getting advertisements from companies that sell gold and stocks but very few that offer "cashflow vehicles". Most of the advertisements have some kind of fearmongering thing going pretty much as you mentioned. That bothers me because there`s no real emphasis on the neccessary financial intell to make gold cashflow.

Who else do you see on this "team"?

By the way I don`t watch "reality TV" I`m too busy recreating me. Heeeee.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 10:08 pm    Post subject: From Beemoe Reply with quote

Speak of the devil: I just got another of those email advertisements talking about "fear and gold". Funny.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 10:49 pm    Post subject: From beemoe Reply with quote

So how does this group maintain control? What do they have that Bill Gates doesn`t? Who else do you see in this group? The Caryle Group?, The Bushes?, Thurn und Taxis?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 10:16 pm    Post subject: Whose out there Reply with quote

Control is maintained by influencing the thoughts of the majority. So long as the actions of those who wield power and therefore maintain control are interpreted by the majority as representing their best interest, all is well. Whenever the agenda of the ruling group meets the ire of the mass population, trouble brews for both sides. We've seen this tactic in play throughout the financial crisis. There are trillons of funds missing from the U.S., treasury and yet the average U.S., citizen could careless. He is more concerned about illegal immigration and a terror threat that the government isn't guarding against. He is concerned about taking back America, all the while failing to realize the author of this rhetoric lies beyond the borders of the nation. Therefore when you espouse the take back America rhetoric, you in reality support the agenda of those who have fight the battle to turn this nation over to Britain. Look at the history of our financial burdens and collapses and there is absolutely no doubt that each has was caused by financial sabotage. Nonetheless what they have that Gates doesn't is control. The Carlyle Group, the Bushes and all of the other high profile front men do the bidding of those who control the financial sector.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 5:06 am    Post subject: From Beemoe Reply with quote

Your right......They( The Rothschilds et als.) do a hell of a job convincing the majority with TV, radio, organized religion, "education" etc. It`s interesting that The Rothschild group along with others succeded soooooo well. They did all the things that the nobility didn`t understand. Like realizing that industrialism and mass production was going to be a much bigger system than The Romanovs or The Hesses or any other feudal families understood.

So you think that the Caryle Group is a front for an even more powerful group......Maybe The Wallenbergs (their control of the Swedish economy is impressive) or how about The Agnellis? Almost royal control of Italy and southern Europe. One of Shakti`s favorites ( always a pleasure to talk to him).

In talking about gangsters it was funny to see Provenzano go to jail a few years ago when his political handlers left office. Provenzano`s financier Palazzolo is living well in South Africa. It looks like he`s greased all the right palms. Speaking of SA how about the Oppenheimers......talk about control! I could see them on this team.

The Grosvenors? Old British money doing extremely well today. Yep! I can see them on this team.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 5:10 am    Post subject: From Beemoe Reply with quote

Did you see The Moody`s as being a front for The Rothschilds or just being in cohoots with them?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 5:11 am    Post subject: From Bee Reply with quote

Grosvenors..........hmmmmmm
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:24 pm    Post subject: From beemoe Reply with quote

Yep; Gerald Grosvenor he fits your criteria....British, extremely wealthy, well connected, military background and independent.

Did you see The Oppenheimers as independent or a another front for The Rothschilds?

How about the Dutch royals aka The house of Orange?
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